Abbas: How was work today?
Tyrant: Tyrant: Eh, well, it was as usual...not very special.

Can I ask what you do?
Tyrant: Yeah. I'm just sitting in a room, in a dark, cold house and watch things so no one steals stuff.

I recently got the Devil's Force album, I think it's fantastic. I'm still getting into it, I like the first one more because I'm more used to it, but I think this I a very dark album. It's an excellent release, you didn't repeat yourselves. You're more old-schoolish...now when did you begin writing the material for that album?
Tyrant: For the Devil's Force album?

Yeah.
Tyrant: Yeah, it's a bit [of a] difference between the tracks, actually. The song Soldier Of Satan, I think it's the sixth song on the cd, that was written about '91 or something, but I rearranged it a bit and in '96 I think. So that is, well, the oldest one, and the rest of them are made about '95/'96 something. The newest track on the album must be Deathstrike From Hell. It's written by Demon, that's the only song he has ever done. And, yeah, he has made it all by himself, so...and he made it '97 summer or something. But, I don't really remember when the other tracks really are from, but they are from around, yeah. I think the first one we made after the first album was Hellish Blasphemy and Desecration Of The Dead and Satanic Mass, and the other ones are a bit new. Maybe Devil's Force is pretty old, too.

I see. So do you write your stuff on guitar first or do you just write it off bass first?
Tyrant: Well, I don't really know, it depends, really. But I think it's mostly on guitar, actually.

What kind of guitars and equipment do you guys use?
Tyrant: Well, it's...

I like your sound a lot on the album, see...
Tyrant: Yeah, yeah. Well, I don't really remember what we were using, because we have always some different stuff, you know. But I think, I have an Ibanez guitar and, yeah, I think it sounds okay. And some...we had, you know, of course, a little, bad amplifier and stuff, you know, and much distortion (light laugh). I think that's the thing, really.

Well what it seems like, I dunno if you've seen this, but you know, when bands like Bathory and stuff, the production was so raw is because he didn't have the best equipment, he just did what he could. Now it seems like a lot of black metal kids and stuff today, they have really, really nice equipment, but they try to make it sound really raw so they get a shit production.
Tyrant: Yeah, that's how it is, you know. Because, you can't use these new things, really, in black metal. I think you shouldn't have this polished, like... I think it's a boring sound all the bands have, you know... it's no aggression in the sound, either. Takes away maybe some of the power from the music, even, I think. We use, of course... the album is recorded totally in analog, with only old stuff. Yeah, and we only dare to whatever, really, in the studio. But I think, yeah, it turned out pretty good.

Nifelheim especially has always been one band whose always just completely doing their own thing. This is kind of a theme I'm trying to [do] with this magazine. I have certain bands like Mysticum and such...they don't pay attention to anyone else, they just go do what they want, they don't give a fuck what anyone thinks.
Tyrant: Yeah, why should you care about others?

Yeah, and I've always respected that. So, uh...well I want to know, where did the idea for your first album cover come from? Cause I think that's THE best album cover I've ever seen. It's seriously awesome.
Tyrant: Yeah, that's just like a picture...like we have had for how many, many years, you know. [It] was just the first thing that came up in our minds you know, really, when we should do an album...I think it was, yeah. We just thought, "Yeah, that's a good cover." We want it like that. It's really nothing, we haven't been thinking out that for fun or something.

Did Necrolord draw the second cover also?
Tyrant: Yeah, he did.

Okay. Yeah, I like it, but I like the first one more, it's just...
Tyrant: Yeah, yeah I fucking think so too, you know, really. I think he was...it looked like he did the first a bit more...not so fast or something. I haven't seen our new cd, of course, but I think they are a bit...it's a bad printing of the painting. The print on the new cd.

Have you guys planned any tours in Europe or anything?
Tyrant: Well, no...heh heh. Necropolis has asked us many times, but we have no guitarist, so...

Oh, you wouldn't...well who did the guitar, did Jon Zwetsloot do guitars on this one too?
Tyrant: Well, I played almost all guitars on this one. Jon Zwetsloot just played on one track or something, rhythm guitar. Demon was also playing on the first track, and Jon Nordveit is also playing some guitars, so it's many people there.

Have you tried getting people to enlist? I mean, if they come to practice, do they get scared of you guys or something?
Tyrant: I don't know, really. I don't know, I think there are no people that even would fit in for one second, maybe here in Sweden or Gothenburg area. But, maybe there is someone we don't know or anything that could be good. I think there are no good people here around, really. It's very hard to find a guitarist.

You're from Gothenburg, then?
Tyrant: Yeah, well we live there, anyway.

I don't like most of the new Swedish bands that come out of Gothenburg, the death metal bands. You know, like the new Swedish death. All the old stuff, Entombed and Unleashed and Grave... all that's my favorite stuff. I don't like In Flames and Dark Tranquility and all that...
Tyrant: No, I don't like it either. And I don't like the old stuff, either really, but yeah I like, you know, Expulsion and Treblinka and Morbid and Bathory and that stuff, really. Grotesque, and stuff.

Have you visited the U.S. before?
Tyrant: No.

Have you considered it at all, even coming to meet the Necropolis guys or something?
Tyrant: Sorry, can you say again?

Ah, sorry. Have you considered going to meet the guys from Necropolis or..?
Tyrant: Well, I don't know, heh. They pay...?

Well I want to know... you know how you play the Bestial Holocaust Bass, right?
Tyrant: Yeah.

All right, so what exactly is the difference, say, between like a Bestial Holocaust Bass, and say, like a 4-string Crushfuck? How would you...?
Tyrant: It's no bigger difference there between the two, really.

How would you differentiate the two, basically? Like... how come you chose "Bestial Holocaust Bass" instead of something like "Blaspheming Necroass Bass", cause so many people name their instruments, so I wanna know how you came to that particular name.
Tyrant: Well, because it sounds like that when I play, maybe. I don't know, really. Yeah...just a name, you know? (laughs)

Yeah. I like these names, I just like to ask about them. We always use these kind of names ourselves.
Tyrant: Yeah, I think I play "Bestial Cruelty" on the new album.

Oh, okay. Well, what inspired the more old school type vocals? A lot of these songs are written a while ago, so it's...I notice he's singing a lot more like...not clean, but he's singing a lot more, you know, the higher screams and stuff on the new album. More the old school type style...do you know what kind of singers you like best out of heavy metal?
Tyrant: From heavy metal? Or black metal, or what do you mean, really?

Yeah, anything...just some of the favorite musicians or singers you had.
Tyrant: Well, in death metal, I can say that I like this vocalist from Volcano, and also Antichrist from Sarcofago. And Dead, of course. And I like Maniac's vocals on Deathcrush. Any of the Brazilian old bands have very brutal vocals I think.

Like the old Sepultura even?
Tyrant: Well, maybe on the first, on the first... the split, you know?

Yeah.
Tyrant: Not very much Sepultura... but brother, like, well I like the vocals from Amon Hammer and Holocausto and stuff.

How did you get into metal, then?
Tyrant: Well, I've always been into metal. I think it started with Iron Maiden and Mercyful Fate and stuff like that. I don't even remember really when I started to listen. It was a very long time ago when I was a little kid. So I've always been into the metal.

Well, you know how a lot of these kids today, how they all talk about how they're so "true" and all that stuff, like if you don't listen these bands you're not "true" and... yeah, I don't know where that stuff started. I mean, I didn't start listening to Mercyful Fate and everything, I started with, you know... Anthrax and Slayer and Megadeth and things like that. Actually, I even started with some glam stuff at first, then I got into Metallica. So you have to start wherever you start, and I don't know where these kids start going off about, you know, "You have to listen to Sodom, Venom, Bathory..." this and that, otherwise you're "false"...
Tyrant: Yeah, yeah. They just talk and they don't know anything. But I don't really know how it started. Maybe...it's hard to say, really. Doesn't bother me too much, anyway.

How did you like doing the Tribute To Bathory CD?
Tyrant: It was okay. That was Blackmoon who would just call and ask and ask again, many times. So we said we can do it, then. It was nothing special, but it's okay to do a tribute to Bathory, they are after all one of the best black metal bands ever. When you think of the first two first albums... so I think it's one of the best black metal, really, so why not do a tribute?

Of course, if one band deserves it, it's them.
Tyrant: Yeah. And of course, I must say that we could do a cover. Our sound is not too far away from them, so we could do a cover which sounds good also. It's harder to do like Iron Maiden cover or something with Nifelheim.

Yeah...cause I was reading all the, you know, in the booklet everybody has their comments saying, you know, "Bathory was inspiration", [then] all of a sudden, Nifelheim, "FUCK OFF!!"
Tyrant: Yeah!

I thought that was the best...that's pretty much the only thing I like saying to people is "fuck off". That's my favorite phrase to say, pretty much, so...
Tyrant: Yeah, there's not really much more to say to them.

Yeah, exactly. They just bug you, so if you want to say something, that's it. Ever since I saw that in the first CD, I saw it on the bottom underneath your picture and I thought, "Now that's amazing."
Tyrant: Oh yeah, okay. Well, well, that's how it is, you know?

Hey, did you guys make any huge posters of the first album? Cause I know Necropolis has the smaller posters, and when you buy the LP, they send you a poster free. And my friend had a poster from long time ago in his room from the first Nifelheim. I said, "I want that poster" and he said, "No," so I finally got one from Necropolis, they sent one. And then my [other] friend ordered the vinyl but he didn't get the poster, they forgot to send it...
Tyrant: Yeah, I was actually wondering a bit about that, too. But I think they didn't make any big posters. They told me they should do it, but of course they didn't. And, yeah, there was just these small ones, and they didn't come with the LP either. So I don't know what they were doing, really. Well, they didn't inform me very good, anyway, they just do things, whatever they say and they do other things later. So, that's pretty annoying, I can say.

(laughs) Yeah, I guess they're doing their best, but I want them to print the big ones soon, I'm gonna talk to them [Abbas' note: haha what the hell am I saying?].
Tyrant: Yeah, they told me they should do big ones this time, but I don't know what happened.

If they give them to me, I'll put them everywhere. Do you still talk to Goat?
Tyrant: What??

Goat, the old vocalist?
Tyrant: Our old vocalist, you mean. I talk to him sometimes, but I think he's living in Norway, so we don't meet to often, but we are great friends anyway.

Oh that's good. How long have you known the other two guys in the band, Demon and Hellbutcher?
Tyrant: Well, Hellbutcher is my brother, so we have known [each other] for like two years or something (snickers). Well, no, but...

(laughs)
Tyrant: Anyway, we have known each other for a very long time, I must say. And Demon, I have known him for like 14 years or something.

Oh, cool. Are you friends with like the guys, you know All and Blackmoon and a lot of those guys... do you guys ever hang out with them or just kind of only do things yourself?
Tyrant: Well, I was a good friend to Jon Nordveit...

(I misheard him) I'm sorry?
Tyrant: What?

Good friend to who?
Tyrant: Jon Nordveit, from Dissection.

Oh yeah, yeah.
Tyrant: And the other guy...so I just mostly just hang out with them. But the other guys who you mentioned, I've met them but they live a bit away, so I don't meet them too often.

Did you go to the Roskilde Festival?
Tyrant: No.

Oh okay. I heard it was...a couple people I know went, they said it was pretty fun, so my friend and I were thinking of going.
Tyrant: Yeah, I've heard about...

How far is that from you?
Tyrant: It's not very long, it'd take one day or something to go there.

Did you have new material now?
Tyrant: We're working on some new stuff. We haven't rehearsed anytime since the LP. Twice or so... and it was recorded in October '97, so we are not really doing very much. But right now it's a bit fucked up I think, because nothing works with the band really.

How come?
Tyrant: The drummer is living far away and he do[es]n't come and rehearse, and we don't have any rehearsal place, and no one is interested really except for me and Hellbutcher. One day we'll find new members, maybe.

Well, yeah, it's like, do you write a lot of stuff over time and then you just bring it all to him, rehearse it all and record it at the same time, or take a lot of time?
Tyrant: I mostly have some stuff in my head for different tracks, and then when we rehearse we usually put it together and see how it works. And then I have to look at it again, or listen to it again and see what...so it will be perfect. So we don't get tired of it after a while or something.

When you're at work, do you ever sit there and think and then you get a riff in your head or something, but you don't have your guitar so you can't play it, so you have to play it when you get home, but do you like...can you remember it til you get home or forget it sometimes?
Tyrant: Yeah, I have that problem sometimes, really. I get much stuff in my head that I forget all the time. I do very little, we haven't done any more songs than we have recorded, just a couple more, so we are doing very little, but I have very much stuff in my head anyway. But we usually... I think we threw away too much, maybe. I could really do some more, but we want it to be perfect, so...

Yeah, I can tell. Like on, I think it's either The Final Slaughter or Desecration Of The Dead, there's a very, very slow, dark part in it [Abbas' note: actually they both have a slow, dark part] and everytime the CD comes on, it always catches you and you just gotta sit and listen, and it's like...this had to have been conceived in a very dark moment. You just kinda sit there doing it.
Tyrant: Exactly, and that's good. There's not so many bands that can deliver any dark moods nowadays, I think. I think it just comes out on the other ear when it comes in the first one (laughs), or do you understand what I mean?

I know what you mean, totally. A lot of new bands are kind of...stale.
Tyrant: It's like, just crap all the time in the 90's. No one has the time to do anything right. Do something, don't bother if it's good or bad...so that's a big problem.

Well it's like, a lot of people, they just kinda write their music, but they might not be satisfied with it completely or they just rush too much...
Tyrant: No, that's the strange stuff. And then they hate their older stuff, they change style all the time and think, "Now we are good." That is just bullshit, I think.

Do you do other types of stuff other than metal at all? When you're on your own playing, or do you even listen to a lot of different things?
Tyrant: Well, I just listen to metal. I'm very into like Judas Priest and Iron Maiden and stuff, but that's high quality. Iron Maiden is the best band, absolutely. Oh, could you wait second?

Oh, sure thing. [someone was coming in the door I believe]
Tyrant: Oh. But I can carry on now, I think.

Okay.
Tyrant: [to the person in the background] Hello... [then back to me] Well, okay then...

Okay, well I appreciate it very much.
Tyrant: What?

You're going now?
Tyrant: No, no, no. Ask more...

Oh okay. No, I was going to say...oh yeah, what do you think of the new Iron Maiden, then?
Tyrant: Oh it's the fucking best album I've ever heard.

Really?
Tyrant: Yeah. The people that doesn't understand that are just dogs.

I have to get it still, I haven't listened to it much yet. My brother likes it, I think.
Tyrant: Oh, it's so fucking great, you know...

Oh, that's cool.
Tyrant: Yeah, but you have to listen to it some times before you understand how incredibly great it is. But I think they are as good as ever, really.

Have you heard the new Slayer?
Tyrant: One time or something, just.

I don't know what the response is, I think it's a good album, except for there's a few songs I don't like on it. But, they did...I think it's very worth checking out, especially a lot of the older fans I think will get a good kick out of it.
Tyrant: Yeah, yeah maybe. I've heard it, but I'm more into like obscure stuff...and more heavy metal. Not this fucking Hammerfall shit, you know. I mean really powerful...

(laughs) I'm sorry, have you heard the new Helloween?
Tyrant: No.

I heard one song and it's...
Tyrant: I don't have, I haven't heard... I don't like Helloween too much.

Oh okay. I wasn't a huge Helloween fan, but I heard it and it was very good. It actually had power in it, it was like real power metal, it wasn't like a lot of the imitation bands, it was a very...
Tyrant: Of course, they're not like imitation band anyway, but I don't like their stuff. I never liked it really much, but I like some tracks of them like Heavy Metal Is The Law from Walls Of Jericho and stuff. I think it's a little bit too "happy" music really or something. I don't know what it is, really, but something that I don't like with them. But anyway, Iron Maiden is better all the time, I can promise you.

Oh I know, Somewhere In Time is one of my favorite albums ever. Where do you guys get your spikes from?
Tyrant: I've made them myself, much of it. Also, I have a guy here, or, an old man really, rather I should say, that makes spikes and stuff for faggots and stuff.

(laugh)
Tyrant: I went there and bought some.

Oh, he's very reliable?
Tyrant: What?

He's very reliable?
Tyrant: Reli... I don't know...

He's, I mean he makes the best ones?
Tyrant: Yeah, yeah, and he's very cheap, too.

Oh cool, okay.
Tyrant: Yeah, so it's cool, I think. I think he will do more stuff for us later. We will be worse and worse. For every record, we will get more spikes.

(laughing) That'll rule. Do you have any ideas [on] what you wanna do with the next one or is it just gonna come to you later?
Tyrant: Well, I have some ideas, but I don't know...it's hard to say really, because we haven't played any tune yet. But I think it will be better, and it will be in the same vein, maybe even darker mood in it than on the 2 first albums.

So what are you guys doing nowadays other than work, you just kinda, like are you just hoping this album gets...
Tyrant: I don't hear what you're... [He quiets the people in background]... Can you say it again?

Yeah, I'm sorry, I just wanna know... um, what the hell is my question? Is it hard to find the Nifelheim album and a lot of black metal over there, or can you find it in stores pretty easily?
Tyrant: Our album?

Yeah.
Tyrant: If you can find it here in Sweden?

Yeah, like stores and stuff. Do they all have a lot of black metal, like a lot of them?
Tyrant: I find it somewhere, but... they have it, but it's not very much about it, really. So that's a bit disturbing. I think Necropolis should get better distribution in Sweden and stuff...

Yeah. Well that's one thing, a lot of the black metal, in U.S. you have to buy it as import and Necropolis is one of the labels that's over here that's putting [it] out... yeah, we can get their stuff pretty easily here, I was just wondering... over there if it's hard...
Tyrant: Yeah, it's pretty hard, really. That's a bit annoying, but I don't want to be like, you know Cradle of Filth anyway, with thousands of t-shirts and stuff in all the stores, idiotic kids going around with it, really. It's good in one way, but you don't get any fucking money.

Well yeah, of course. You just kinda have to do this for...you can go get a job so can have time to do this. Um...
Tyrant: Oh shit, ahh... wooh, my ears!

What happened?
Tyrant: Nothing, but it's very noisy around, so I don't hear what you're saying all the time.

Oh, I'm sorry.
Tyrant: But now maybe it's better here.

Okay, do you have to have learn English in school early or anything?
Tyrant: Yeah, around... you start to learn when you're about 10 years or something.

Oh, I see. Yeah, I spoke with All yesterday, he had very good English and I think yours is very good, too.
Tyrant: Oh, yeah. I haven't read any English for years, I start to forget it, but... yeah, it's good to know another language than Swedish also.

Yeah, I tried learning. I was thinking... I'm too lazy now to learn more stuff, but I will eventually I think.
Tyrant: Yeah, I'm too lazy to learn anything new for the moment, anyway. I want to fucking play, you know, more. You understand that, maybe...

Well that's all we do, I go to work and I come home, we have band practice every single day.
Tyrant: I don't have a real work either, really. This is just work to get more money from the government later. I'm usually unemployed, but then I have even more time to do music stuff. But when there are no others it's a big problem, but I will fucking find one sometime.

Have you asked Demon to come move near you guys?
Tyrant: What?

Have you asked Demon to come and live near you?
Tyrant: Yeah, but he won't!

How come?
Tyrant: I don't know, really. He do[es]n't want to move, he's stupid, or something.

Does he play in other bands?
Tyrant: No, no other stuff. And I don't play in any other bands, either. Or, have done, anyway. I think you should have one band and do it 100% instead of having one band for playing, like old-school thrash, and one with Norwegian forest shit. You know, like they are... all the people, they have like 100 bands per man.

(laugh)
Tyrant: They're signed by different, small labels, it's like, yeah, a very strange situation I think.

Yeah. Man, well I have 2 bands, but I wasn't in one of them for a while, I was just kind of at home, so the other one asked me to join, and then the other [first] one I joined back, but it's fun.
Tyrant: Yeah. I actually have some secret plans maybe to do some kind of heavy metal stuff, but I don't think we will do anything in any records or anything. Just for myself. I won't have any slower stuff in Nifelheim, anyway. I do so much other more heavy metal stuff, riffs and stuff, so I want to do something with it, but just for myself.

I think it's cool, I like Demon's style of drumming, he doesn't have to play super fast like a lot of Swedish/Norwegian... just every band. You guys have the real aggressive drumming, but...
Tyrant: Yeah, I think our style if much more aggressive, anyway. It sounds faster, you can feel it, anyway. And it's not very tight played either, but it's very powerful and aggressive drumming.

Of course...like you put the first cd [on] and that first song, the riff kicks in and you gotta start headbanging, there's no other way about it.
Tyrant: Yeah. I like it very much, also. I think he's a very good drummer.

He is. It's a very, very full sound.
Tyrant: He has a personal style. I think all the members in the band have like a different style in playing from all other people. You can hear what who is playing, and that's very good.

I hope I don't have to wait too long, cause the first one came out and then I didn't know if you guys, you know, what was going on, so...I was gonna try to send you an interview a long time ago and I had some questions about "when's the next album coming", and then finally Necropolis said it was coming, and I said, "okay, good." I like this album a lot, I'm gonna take some time, I just can't wait for more...
Tyrant: My opinion is that this new album is even better than the first because it's more interesting to listen to, many times. It's better arrangements and stuff, and more feeling. It's dark, and evil. I think you have noticed it, and it's even more rough than the first also, and more obscure in one way. It sounds even older, I think.

Yeah, I agree, it does, because, you know, the first one, it's still a little bit faster, so when it came out when a lot of the black metal was coming out, so people were like, "oh I'll get Nifelheim, it's another black metal band," but, then you listen to it, you realize it's different.
Tyrant: Yeah, it's hard to say. I think we are a black metal band, we are true black metal, and not copying any other. That was really what we were thinking when we started. We started in 1990, and then when it was, you know, like death metal trend, [something] and all the other, and we were playing black metal in that way. And then after some years, people started to shout about "old school" and that stuff really. You understand?

Yeah.
Tyrant: I've always liked Sodom and all that old stuff, Venom and stuff. We wanted to sound like Bathory and Treblinka or something. I think we do that, it's not really only old school, because if I want to do anything, new stuff in it, I will do it.

Yeah, you have modern stuff and old influences all in there.
Tyrant: Yeah, I have no limits what you could do or not, really. That's good, I think, but there will be no new stuff anyway because I don't like it, so that's the reason why we sound like we do.

Exactly, you don't have to go real grind-speed or anything, or play so unbelievable fast, you just do [it] your own way.
Tyrant: Exactly.

I can't remember, where did you record this second album?
Tyrant: In a studio called Maestro Studios. It has never been used with [a] metal band before, I think. But we have our own producer, The Shitman.

What's his name?
Tyrant: What?

What's his name?
Tyrant: The Shitman.

The Shitman?
Tyrant: Yeah.

Oh, wow. How did he get that name?
Tyrant: Eh... he is eating shit and it is very... nice.

(laugh) I see.
Tyrant: Yeah, most people here in Sweden all hate him, he's famous in whole Sweden. He's the worst asshole, you know, so [he's] a very good person (laughs). He's a good producer, and he was producing the first, also. Yeah, and... he was producing this one and he will produce the rest of it, also. So it doesn't matter too much which studio you choose, we just looked at the stuff they had, like what kind of tape recorder and stuff they had. They had great equipment, so we chose that studio. And he knew one of the guys working there also, so it was okay. I think we will probably record the next album there, also.

Do you have any of those demo recordings you had with Goat? The song that was on the Headbangers Against Disco?
Tyrant: Yeah, I have it.

Can I get a tape from you or something one day maybe, like if I send you a tape? Cause I want to hear those...
Tyrant: Yeah, but I think it's not very good. I think that recording is pretty much... it's just the Witches Sabbath track really good, that is very good. But we recorded some other... it was Devil's Force or Soldier Of Satan but they turned out very bad in the studio, so I don't want to spread it too much. You can understand...

Yeah, okay.
Tyrant: I don't know what to do really, heh. But anyway, the Witches Sabbath track is very good, I think.

I'd like to hear that. That's the one on the 7"?
Tyrant: Yeah.

Okay, I still have to find that 7", cause...
Tyrant: Oh, yeah, you don't have it?

No, my friend's band, Cianide, was on a different, they had another H.A.D. I think, I can't remember which one it was, but they were on it, they had some copies, so I'll see if I can get some from them. How did London " Polygram contact you for the, you know the Gummo Soundtrack?
Tyrant: Yeah.

When did they call you about that?
Tyrant: Well, it was Necropolis [who] called me and said, "Do you want to be in a film soundtrack?" Yeah, yeah...it was just like two weeks before the deadline. Then we were in a fucking big hurry, you know. We had to borrow a drummer, Ohman from Dissection was playing drums on that because Demon couldn't come in time. However, we hadn't any tracks, we had just... yeah, Hellish Blasphemy was finished, but we made Demonic Evil, we finished that track just before we recorded it to that film. But we did two songs so they could choose one, but they chose the other one. I think it's bad also, because we weren't satisfied with that, either. I think it sounds too clean, that recording. It's too slow and soft, I think it's much better on the album, the version on the album.

Yeah, it flows with the album better on that one.
Tyrant: Yeah, so...that's a little irritating that they choose the worst all the time (laughs). But anyway, it's good to be on that soundtrack.

They did a good job w/that. Have you seen the movie yet?
Tyrant: Yeah, I've seen it.

What'd you think?
Tyrant: I don't know (laughs). I think it was pretty funny.

(laugh) Yeah, pretty much, it was disgusting but it was amusing.
Tyrant: Yeah, it's great. I think it was nice to see.

How much does Hellbutcher practice his vocals? Does he scream when he's at home or anything?
Tyrant: Never.

Oh, okay, cause he's got a good voice on the album. He does good screams.
Tyrant: Yeah, he just screams like when we are rehearsing, it sounds like... we have always almost sounded like more like we do on the new album than on the first, in the vocals. We have always screamed very much. I think that's good.

Does he ever go anywhere out, if you guys are going out somewhere, does he ever just start screaming?
Tyrant: Ummmm... not very often, I think.

Oh okay. I think you should use that, you should scare people around you. You should just start yelling at them.
Tyrant: Yeah. It's better to kick them in the face, when they are sleeping or something.

(laughs) Yeah, you can't argue that. Ahh...all right, I'm sorry, my tape is almost finished here. I could go on but this is almost gonna be finished so it'll end up cutting us off. But I had a lot of fun, thank you for doing this.
Tyrant: Yeah, okay.

Do you have last things you want to say?
Tyrant: Ehh... FUCK OFF!